This book covers several topics which need to addressed separately.
- Combat. I take my hat off to Karl Marlantes for having been in combat- an experience which I have had the good fortune not to have to make. His description is excellent and gripping.
- Leadership. First Lieutenants have the toughest job: Generals send divisions into battle, even Captains deal with units rather than individuals. It is the Lieutenant who orders Joe and Jim to get into a firefight, and he knows them personally, and they might even be his friends, and it might, and very often does, get them killed. You guys out there in ROTC land, listen up: rank does not only come with privileges, it also comes with responsibilities- and some of them might backfire. Better make sure you are ready.
- PTSD. Karl seems to have suffered severely from it- although it is probably incorrect to attribute all his problems to it. I mean, even guys without PTSD have gotten divorced! However, writing the book seems to have helped him, and maybe others like him, so it is legitimate and thus acceptable. It just does not do anything for people without PTSD, because there is hardly any accurate description and definitely no analysis.
- Psychology. This is the part that I had the most problems with. The mixture of Mysticism, Jungianism and New Age might be appealing to some, but it is just too subjective to be of value. I had thought that we have long since recognized Carl Jung (et al.) as what they are: the blind scientists trying to explore an elephant. Modern evolutionary psychology is effortlessly able to explain how a reflecting individual and an instinctive fighter can inhabit the same mind. Switching when ordered is, of course, difficult, especially if you lost friends and definitely if you lost the war. Shamanism is, however, not the solution.


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Seitenzahl der Print-Ausgabe272 Seiten
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SpracheEnglisch
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HerausgeberAtlantic Monthly Press
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Erscheinungstermin30. August 2011
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Abmessungen14.48 x 2.54 x 21.08 cm
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ISBN-100802119921
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Produktbeschreibungen
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Karl Marlantes has written a staggeringly beautiful book on combatwhat it feels like, what the consequences are and above all, what society must do to understand it. In my eyes he has become the preeminent literary voice on war of our generation. He is a natural storyteller and a deeply profound thinker who not only illuminates war for civilians, but also offers a kind of spiritual guidance to veterans themselves. As this generation of warriors comes home, they will be enormously helped by what Marlantes has writtenI’m sure he will literally save lives.”Sebastian Junger
Marlantes brings candor and wrenching self-analysis to bear on his combat experiences in Vietnam, in a memoir-based meditation whose intentions are three-fold: to help soldiers-to-be understand what they’re in for; to help veterans come to terms with what they’ve seen and done; and to help policymakers know what they’re asking of the men they send into combat.”The New Yorker
What It Is Like to Go to War is a well-crafted and forcefully argued work that contains fresh and important insights into what it’s like to be in a war and what it does to the human psyche.”The Washington Post
Marlantes is the best American writer right now on war . . . With What It Is Like to Go to War a second Marlantes book resides on the top shelf of American literature.”Anthony Swofford, author of Jarhead
What It Is Like to Go to War ought to be mandatory reading by potential infantry recruits and by residents of any nation that sends its kidsMarlantes’s wordinto combat.”San Francisco Chronicle
In this thoughtful, literate work of self-exorcism, Marlantes tells tales of incredible bravery as well as brutality.”People Magazine
A precisely crafted and bracingly honest book."The Atlantic
Marlantes knows what he writes. . . Raw, unsettling honesty pervades the work.”Time.com
Marlantes has written a sparklingly provocative nonfiction book. . . He is an exceptional writer and his depictions here are vivid.”BookPage
A gripping, first-person plea to consider the impact on the human spirit of being a soldier.”Huffington Post
Karl Marlantes, author of the excellent What It Is Like To Go To War, cautions his audience to understand the cost to the human psyche in sending others to kill in our names or for policies decided by politicians determined to use (and abuse) the power entrusted to their office.”Daily Planet
Karl Marlantes’ What It Is Like to Go to War is a deeply personal account of dealing with his harrowing time as a Marine Corps officer in Vietnam. . . . Marlantes’ fiction might be just too wrenching for some readers to believe.”Logos
This absolutely unique and lucid personal account and analysis will be read with profit by scholars, general readers, and most particularly, by veterans of close combat. . . . The author is qualified by experience, education, temperament, and skill as a writer to make penetrating observations. Many are graphic, bold, and shocking. Some are erudite; some are ethereal; all are worthy of careful consideration. . . . His method is to reflect on a point important to him, to illustrate it with an anecdote or a combat experience, and to mull it over in sparkling prose that has the reader hanging on every word. . . . Mastery of our language and the creative use of poetic devices and images make his pronouncements memorable. . . . Marlantes has joined a short list of authors whose experience, sensitivity, and skill enable them to share wisdom with those among us who would understand.”Parameters
What it is Like to Go to War is already considered by many a modern classic. . . . The former Marine has three main goals in this unflinchingly honest look at what it means to be a soldier in a war: to let potential soldiers understand what to expect, to help veterans better cope with what they’ve experienced, and to help policy makers truly comprehend what it means when they send combat troops into a war zone.”Bradenton Herald
To say that this book is brilliant is an understatementMarlantes is the absolute master of taking the psyche of the combat veteran and translating it into words that the civilian or non-veteran can understand. I have read many, many books on war and this is the first time that I've ever read exactly what the combat veteran thinks and feelsnothing I have ever read before has hit home in my heart like this book.”Gunnery Sergeant Terence D’Alesandro, 3rd Batallion, 5th Marines, U.S. Marine Corps
Wrenchingly honest. . . . Digging as deeply into his own life as he does into the larger sociological and moral issues, Marlantes presents a riveting, powerfully written account of how, after being taught to kill, he learned to deal with the aftermath.”Publishers Weekly (starred review)
A valiant effort to explain and make peace with war’s awesome consequences for human beings.”Kirkus Reviews
What It Is Like to Go to War offers profound insight on how we must prepare our youth who become our warriors for their hard and uncompromising journey through war’s hell and back home again.”Vietnam Magazine
With war such a part of contemporary American life, this book is deeply important, as timely and urgent as contemporary on-the-ground reporting from Afghanistan and Iraq.”The Minneapolis Star Tribune
A sound debunking of anything smacking of the glory of warfarebut written with compassion, honest and wit for men and now women who fight and for all of those who care about them.”St. Louis Dispatch
A slim spiritual guide. . . Marlantes’s book is a sincere plea for better soldiers and veterans.”Seattle Weekly
What It Is Like to Go to War is a courageous, noble and intelligent grapple with myth, history, and spirituality that beautifully elevates the cultural conversation on the role of the military in today’s world. It is an emotional, honest, and affecting primer for all Americans on war and the national psyche, and we ignore this book at our own peril.”Ed Conklin, Chaucer’s Books, Santa Barbara
Marlantes brings candor and wrenching self-analysis to bear on his combat experiences in Vietnam, in a memoir-based meditation whose intentions are three-fold: to help soldiers-to-be understand what they’re in for; to help veterans come to terms with what they’ve seen and done; and to help policymakers know what they’re asking of the men they send into combat.”The New Yorker
What It Is Like to Go to War is a well-crafted and forcefully argued work that contains fresh and important insights into what it’s like to be in a war and what it does to the human psyche.”The Washington Post
Marlantes is the best American writer right now on war . . . With What It Is Like to Go to War a second Marlantes book resides on the top shelf of American literature.”Anthony Swofford, author of Jarhead
What It Is Like to Go to War ought to be mandatory reading by potential infantry recruits and by residents of any nation that sends its kidsMarlantes’s wordinto combat.”San Francisco Chronicle
In this thoughtful, literate work of self-exorcism, Marlantes tells tales of incredible bravery as well as brutality.”People Magazine
A precisely crafted and bracingly honest book."The Atlantic
Marlantes knows what he writes. . . Raw, unsettling honesty pervades the work.”Time.com
Marlantes has written a sparklingly provocative nonfiction book. . . He is an exceptional writer and his depictions here are vivid.”BookPage
A gripping, first-person plea to consider the impact on the human spirit of being a soldier.”Huffington Post
Karl Marlantes, author of the excellent What It Is Like To Go To War, cautions his audience to understand the cost to the human psyche in sending others to kill in our names or for policies decided by politicians determined to use (and abuse) the power entrusted to their office.”Daily Planet
Karl Marlantes’ What It Is Like to Go to War is a deeply personal account of dealing with his harrowing time as a Marine Corps officer in Vietnam. . . . Marlantes’ fiction might be just too wrenching for some readers to believe.”Logos
This absolutely unique and lucid personal account and analysis will be read with profit by scholars, general readers, and most particularly, by veterans of close combat. . . . The author is qualified by experience, education, temperament, and skill as a writer to make penetrating observations. Many are graphic, bold, and shocking. Some are erudite; some are ethereal; all are worthy of careful consideration. . . . His method is to reflect on a point important to him, to illustrate it with an anecdote or a combat experience, and to mull it over in sparkling prose that has the reader hanging on every word. . . . Mastery of our language and the creative use of poetic devices and images make his pronouncements memorable. . . . Marlantes has joined a short list of authors whose experience, sensitivity, and skill enable them to share wisdom with those among us who would understand.”Parameters
What it is Like to Go to War is already considered by many a modern classic. . . . The former Marine has three main goals in this unflinchingly honest look at what it means to be a soldier in a war: to let potential soldiers understand what to expect, to help veterans better cope with what they’ve experienced, and to help policy makers truly comprehend what it means when they send combat troops into a war zone.”Bradenton Herald
To say that this book is brilliant is an understatementMarlantes is the absolute master of taking the psyche of the combat veteran and translating it into words that the civilian or non-veteran can understand. I have read many, many books on war and this is the first time that I've ever read exactly what the combat veteran thinks and feelsnothing I have ever read before has hit home in my heart like this book.”Gunnery Sergeant Terence D’Alesandro, 3rd Batallion, 5th Marines, U.S. Marine Corps
Wrenchingly honest. . . . Digging as deeply into his own life as he does into the larger sociological and moral issues, Marlantes presents a riveting, powerfully written account of how, after being taught to kill, he learned to deal with the aftermath.”Publishers Weekly (starred review)
A valiant effort to explain and make peace with war’s awesome consequences for human beings.”Kirkus Reviews
What It Is Like to Go to War offers profound insight on how we must prepare our youth who become our warriors for their hard and uncompromising journey through war’s hell and back home again.”Vietnam Magazine
With war such a part of contemporary American life, this book is deeply important, as timely and urgent as contemporary on-the-ground reporting from Afghanistan and Iraq.”The Minneapolis Star Tribune
A sound debunking of anything smacking of the glory of warfarebut written with compassion, honest and wit for men and now women who fight and for all of those who care about them.”St. Louis Dispatch
A slim spiritual guide. . . Marlantes’s book is a sincere plea for better soldiers and veterans.”Seattle Weekly
What It Is Like to Go to War is a courageous, noble and intelligent grapple with myth, history, and spirituality that beautifully elevates the cultural conversation on the role of the military in today’s world. It is an emotional, honest, and affecting primer for all Americans on war and the national psyche, and we ignore this book at our own peril.”Ed Conklin, Chaucer’s Books, Santa Barbara
Über den Autor und weitere Mitwirkende
A graduate of Yale University and a Rhodes Scholar at Oxford University, Karl Marlantes served as a Marine in Vietnam, where he was awarded the Navy Cross, the Bronze Star, two Navy Commendation medals for valor, two Purple Hearts, and ten air medals. He is the author of Matterhorn, which won numerous prizes, including the William E. Colby Award given by the Pritzker Military Library, the Center for Fiction's Flaherty-Dunnan First Novel Prize, the 2011 Indies' Choice Award for Adult Debut Book of the Year, and the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation's James Webb Award for Distinguished Fiction. He lives in rural Washington.
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- Herausgeber : Atlantic Monthly Press; First Edition (30. August 2011)
- Sprache : Englisch
- Gebundene Ausgabe : 272 Seiten
- ISBN-10 : 0802119921
- ISBN-13 : 978-0802119926
- Abmessungen : 14.48 x 2.54 x 21.08 cm
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Karl Marlantes' "What Is It Like To Go To War" is an essay about war fighting - why individuals are lured into it and how the experience changes the participants. Marlantes draws from his own experience as a young USMC officer in the Vietnam War and he does not shy away from telling us the gory and (seemingly) shameful details.
Furthermore, Marlantes thinks about the possible mental and ethical strengthening to protect individuals against the utter destruction of their personality in war.
I may not agree a 100% with Mr Marlantes, but his reasoning is quite strong and a very good starting point for anybody who wants to form a well-founded opinion concerning soldiers, veterans and the ever-important question of “Shall we or shouldn’t we take up the fight?”
In my humble opinion a must-read for any leader of troops and all politicians.
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Karl Marlantes "What Is It Like To Go To War" ist ein Essay über Soldaten im Krieg, warum Menschen vom Krieg fasziniert sind und wie die Erfahrungen ihre Persönlichkeit verändern. Marlantes geht dabei auch auf seine eigenen Erlebnisse als junger Offizier der US Marineinfanterie im Vietnamkrieg ein und er scheut nicht davor zurück, auch abstoßende und scheinbar beschämende Details zu berichten und zu bewerten.
Außerdem zeigt Marlantes seine Überlegungen, ob und wie es möglich ist, Menschen, die in den Krieg ziehen müssen, geistig und ethisch zu stärken, um sie vor der Zerstörung ihrer Persönlichkeit durch den Krieg zu bewahren.
Auch wenn ich nicht gänzlich mit Marlantes einer Meinung bin, ist seine Argumentation abgerundet und solide. Sie ist ein guter Ausgangspunkt für alle, die sich selbst eine wohlabgewogene Meinung bilden wollen über Soldaten, Veteranen und die immer wieder wichtige Frage „Nehmen wir diesen Kampf auf oder nicht?“
Meiner Meinung nach sollte dieses Buch Pflichtlektüre sein für jeden Truppenführer und für alle Politiker.
Furthermore, Marlantes thinks about the possible mental and ethical strengthening to protect individuals against the utter destruction of their personality in war.
I may not agree a 100% with Mr Marlantes, but his reasoning is quite strong and a very good starting point for anybody who wants to form a well-founded opinion concerning soldiers, veterans and the ever-important question of “Shall we or shouldn’t we take up the fight?”
In my humble opinion a must-read for any leader of troops and all politicians.
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Karl Marlantes "What Is It Like To Go To War" ist ein Essay über Soldaten im Krieg, warum Menschen vom Krieg fasziniert sind und wie die Erfahrungen ihre Persönlichkeit verändern. Marlantes geht dabei auch auf seine eigenen Erlebnisse als junger Offizier der US Marineinfanterie im Vietnamkrieg ein und er scheut nicht davor zurück, auch abstoßende und scheinbar beschämende Details zu berichten und zu bewerten.
Außerdem zeigt Marlantes seine Überlegungen, ob und wie es möglich ist, Menschen, die in den Krieg ziehen müssen, geistig und ethisch zu stärken, um sie vor der Zerstörung ihrer Persönlichkeit durch den Krieg zu bewahren.
Auch wenn ich nicht gänzlich mit Marlantes einer Meinung bin, ist seine Argumentation abgerundet und solide. Sie ist ein guter Ausgangspunkt für alle, die sich selbst eine wohlabgewogene Meinung bilden wollen über Soldaten, Veteranen und die immer wieder wichtige Frage „Nehmen wir diesen Kampf auf oder nicht?“
Meiner Meinung nach sollte dieses Buch Pflichtlektüre sein für jeden Truppenführer und für alle Politiker.
Rezension aus Deutschland vom 26. November 2014
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Hab lange danach gesucht, nach einem Buch aus der 'Täterperspektive'. Wir leben in einer Opferkultur. Wenn jemand ein Buch schreibt, dann darüber wo er sich als Opfer sieht, aber nie darüber wie es ist ein Täter zu sein. Wie damit zurecht zu kommen Menschen umgebracht zu haben. Über die Ekstase eines Kampfeinsatzes, über das Machterleben zerstörerische Waffen in Händen zu halten. Über das zu schreiben habe ich sehr mutig gefunden. Sehr mutig da er es gewagt dieses Tabu zu überschreiten.
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Marlantes ergänzt sein Meisterwerk "Matterhorn" mit einigen bemerkenswerten Gedanken zum Dienst im Militär und zum Kampfeinsatz junger Menschen. Das Büchlein sollte zur Pflichlektüre von (Militär-)Politikern und denen werden, die im Begriff sind, sich freiwillig zu melden. Dass einiges sehr auf amerikanische Soziostrukturen zugeschnitten ist, liegt in der Natur der Sache, macht das Buch aber nicht weniger lesenswert. Schade, dass es bisher nur in Englisch vorliegt und deshalb nicht für jeden uneingeschränkt zugänglich ist.
Rezension aus Deutschland vom 20. August 2020
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totaler Wirrwarr über hunderte Seiten. Das interessiert allenfalls dem Schreiber sein Psychotherapheut oder ein sonsiter headshrinker, aber keinen Leser im eigentlichen Sinn.
Rezension aus Deutschland vom 7. Juli 2013
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Even for someone who has not gone to war - and is not likely to - it gave me something to think. Too many similarities to be found in myself to be merely an interesting read.
Rezension aus Deutschland vom 24. Juli 2017
Karl Marlantes, a Vietnam Marine veteran, delves into the difficult questions at the heart of war. What is it like to be in the midst of battle? What are the effects on returning veterans at home? How should a society as a whole relate to war and suffering?
While some might feel distance or unease when the author talks about transendence and sprituality, this should not prevent one from seeing Marlantes' arguments for a more open view filled with empathy and compassion (instead of blindness or bias) towards these immensely difficult questions.
I would also like to recommend the audiobook as narrated by Bronson Pinchot, who truly does an outstanding job - the best audiobook I have enjoyed to date.
While some might feel distance or unease when the author talks about transendence and sprituality, this should not prevent one from seeing Marlantes' arguments for a more open view filled with empathy and compassion (instead of blindness or bias) towards these immensely difficult questions.
I would also like to recommend the audiobook as narrated by Bronson Pinchot, who truly does an outstanding job - the best audiobook I have enjoyed to date.
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G. G. Curtis
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One of the best books ever written about the effects of war on those who have to do the actual killingkilling
Rezension aus dem Vereinigten Königreich vom 21. November 2012Verifizierter Kauf
There have been very few books that I have ever read that were as thought provoking as this. All Quiet on the Western Front, which I read years and years ago; more recently 'Behind Closed Doors', 'Unbroken', 'The End - Hitlers Germany 1944-1945' and last but not least 'In the Garden of Beasts'.
Karl Marlantes says what war is REALLY LIKE - warts and all - from the perspective of someone who was actually in the thick of it. This is not the memoir of some General with a chest full of medals who seldom if ever came within fifty miles or so of the muck and bullets and the blood and the screaming and the pain and the abject misery of it all, it is by a guy who was very much up close and personal with 'the other side'; who describes the pointlessness of 'the body count' which the aforementioned Generals and their ilk were so concerned about, and which were in any event completely inaccurate; it is about poor leadership, tactical decisions that wasted lives unnecessarily; it is about the total lack of post combat reflection which doubtless would have gone a long way towards alleviating the nightmares that would come later; it is about the cold shoulder shown by so many of the American people to those who went to fight their countries war, whether they wanted to or not.
Marlantes raises many issues.
This is a book by someone who has had the courage to bare his soul to the effect the killing fields of Vietnam had on him and others.
It is a remarkable and very frank and honest account.
His story is about Vietnam, but it could be about any war, anywhere and everywhere at any time in history
Karl Marlantes says what war is REALLY LIKE - warts and all - from the perspective of someone who was actually in the thick of it. This is not the memoir of some General with a chest full of medals who seldom if ever came within fifty miles or so of the muck and bullets and the blood and the screaming and the pain and the abject misery of it all, it is by a guy who was very much up close and personal with 'the other side'; who describes the pointlessness of 'the body count' which the aforementioned Generals and their ilk were so concerned about, and which were in any event completely inaccurate; it is about poor leadership, tactical decisions that wasted lives unnecessarily; it is about the total lack of post combat reflection which doubtless would have gone a long way towards alleviating the nightmares that would come later; it is about the cold shoulder shown by so many of the American people to those who went to fight their countries war, whether they wanted to or not.
Marlantes raises many issues.
This is a book by someone who has had the courage to bare his soul to the effect the killing fields of Vietnam had on him and others.
It is a remarkable and very frank and honest account.
His story is about Vietnam, but it could be about any war, anywhere and everywhere at any time in history
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monxton13
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This Is Certainly Not Matterhorn
Rezension aus dem Vereinigten Königreich vom 18. März 2021Verifizierter Kauf
Skipped plenty of pages here as I got weary of the classical references and Temple Of Mars analysis ,the author trying to put an appalling circumstance into perspective, in later life. Save a few £ and settle in for an 8 hour read of Matterhorn instead. A blend of fact/fiction set in the moment. Far more engaging read than this over long effort.

Fingers
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Interesting account and philosophy
Rezension aus dem Vereinigten Königreich vom 31. März 2020Verifizierter Kauf
I didn't expect another matterhorn and the explanations of the spiritual and psychological well being and motivation s became more absorbing as the book progressed. Matterhorn highlighted the waste and senselessness of war, this book is about the inadequacy individuals of individuals as weapons. It's poinient nd moving.

EUGENE HINES
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An excellent book that should be mandatory reading for all ranks ...
Rezension aus dem Vereinigten Königreich vom 5. Juni 2015Verifizierter Kauf
An interesting and personaliy candid perspective on war. I've never experienced combat myself, however I have seen first hand the state that returning US servicemen returned home in and even though they were my contemporaries in age you couldn't be oblivious to the fact that all wasn't right at the ranch. It was erie.
From afar in Canada I demonstrated against Vietnam but never did anything that berated the U.S. servicemen on the line.
An excellent book that should be mandatory reading for all ranks in all armies.
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From afar in Canada I demonstrated against Vietnam but never did anything that berated the U.S. servicemen on the line.
An excellent book that should be mandatory reading for all ranks in all armies.
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The hell of the Jungle!!
Rezension aus dem Vereinigten Königreich vom 2. September 2018Verifizierter Kauf
Taught me a lot about Vietnam. I never read war books and this is my first ever one. He's extremely intelligent and it is a deep book not just a description of events. There are details of what happened in the killing fields, but also a lot of psychological depth trying to figure out all that has happened in the mind of the soldier, to his actions, and to the actions of others and his thoughts about the war.