From: Freebeach Info Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 12:33:20 +1100 To: Paul Tracey Cc: , Murray Matson Conversation: Little Congwong Beach Subject: Little Congwong Beach Dear Mayor Dear Councillors The Southern Courier reaches more readers in the Randwick City local government area than any other paper, including metropolitan press. So, with a circulation of 46,667 copies (CAB Audit March 2006) every Tuesday and a readership of 99,000 residents (Roy Morgan Research April 2004 March 2006) their Reader's polls carry weight. It gives me great pleasure that I can announce the results of the poll of last week: "Should Little Congwong be declared a nudist beach?" as follows: Yes 92% No 4% Don't Care 4% Page 23 of Southern Courier, December 19th 2006 http://digitaledition.southerncourier.com.au No more anecdotal evidence. This time it was all out in the open, put to the community. These are hard facts. Randwick residents have had their say, now it is time for the councillors to act accordingly. Make the beach clothing-optional, for the good news is that local residents did NOT vote against naturism, as some councillors always tried to make us believe they would... Season's Greetings Gerald Ganglbauer -- Free Beach Action NSW http://www.freebeach.info PO Box 522, Strawberry Hills NSW 2012 From: Robert Belleli Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 13:49:21 +1100 To: Subject: Re: Little Congwong Beach You know the poll was stacked. I will take no notice of it. i have sent response to courier. Thanks for your email nice try. Cr Belleli From: Freebeach Info Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 14:07:37 +1100 To: Robert Belleli Cc: Michelle Wranik , Cara Davis Conversation: Little Congwong Beach Subject: Re: Little Congwong Beach Dear Cr Belleli It is of course up to you whether or not you take notice of a public opinion poll that is conducted every week in your electorate. But what you just said is a serious allegation against a respected community paper. I am sure the publisher's lawyers may want to respond to this. Regards Gerald Ganglbauer From: Robert Belleli Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:09:05 +1100 To: Subject: Re: Little Congwong Beach well im entitled to free speech and im aloud to point out the facts. Unlike your organisation that is breaking the law. The more you guys push for this the more we will fight. So bring it on. From: Freebeach Info Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:29:19 +1100 To: Robert Belleli Cc: Michelle Wranik , Cara Davis , Tim Dick Conversation: Little Congwong Beach Subject: Re: Little Congwong Beach Dear Cr Belleli Yes, we have the freedom of speech, but please stick to the facts. Face the truth that you have no community support for your anti naturism campaign. That is so last century. No, we're not breaking the law. We only fight for what is already rightfully and traditionally ours. Australia was a democratic country, last time I checked. Our beaches are for everybody - which includes naturists. Regards Gerald Ganglbauer From: Robert Belleli Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2006 15:27:58 +1100 To: Subject: Fwd: Re: Little Congwong Beach To be fair Gerald ive never sent the trops down on the beach to push you all off.. But if you keep pushing you will give me no choice. You have made this an issue to try and legitimise your nude bathing. It will never happen even if i go away. By pushing so hard you are getting the locals fired up and calling for you all of the beach. The more you push the more they are closer getting you all banned and law inforced. Keep making this an issue and the oposit of what you are trying achieve will happen. Im speaking to you now man to man. I dont hate you and i dont have a problem with your nudist, i just think the Little Congwong Beach is inapropiet for your activity. And im not the only one. You should be listening more to the local community. Like i said the more you push the more amunition you are giving the local community. If you a decent citizen you should be looking for a more apprpiet place where you dont offend the locals and you can do your thing in peace. I think that would be the smart thing to do. Think about it. Im happy to meet you asnd discuss this with you and your group. Cr Belleli >>> Robert Belleli 12/20/06 3:16 PM >>> It was stacked in relation that you have members all over the world and Australia that would have voted. Be honest here. You can put as much spin on it as you like. Dont be selfish the local community wants their beach back. Your nudist are not welcolmed at little Congwong. Go and find a beach along the coast thats not near a heavily populated tourist attraction. God help if a young child is molested in the area because some undersirable is atracted to Little congwong because of them able to perve on nudity. Gerald start thinking properly imagine if something haapes to a young child the community would point the finger at somebody and so will I and alot of other people. You should do the right thing and find another location. You will not win this one. If not me protecting the community it will be somebody else. Do us all a favor and find another beach away from general population. Please stop wasting everyones time. Respect the wishes of the local community and their fear for young children in the area. I know you will not listen to me, but i thought i ll give it a shot. Thanks for your email. Cr Belleli Subject: Re: Little Congwong Beach Date: Wednesday, 20 December 2006 4:06 PM From: Gerald Ganglbauer To: Robert Belleli Cc: Michelle Wranik , Cara Davis , Tim Dick Conversation: Little Congwong Beach OK Robert, from man to man. I am a respected citizen just like yourself. I am a member of the board of directors of AOEWB, the organisation looking after half a million Austrians abroad. Similar to the Italian rep in this position in Melbourne. But you are so wrong about naturism. Children could not be safer than amongst naturist families. We bring our children with us. In Austria we have around a third of recreational resources dedicated to FKK (Freikoerperkultur = Free Body Culture). It is a fully optional choice, taken up by millions. The real problem on any remote beach are the guys in Speedos. If you were to ban nudity on our free beach, the gay men in bathing costumes or at least wearing a G-string would completely take over the beach by transforming it into a "legal" gay beat. Is that what you want to achieve? As far as the poll goes, it is not so important that naturists or naturist supporters voted YES, or how many of us - but what the poll results showed very clearly, is that there is NO support whatsoever for your outdated crusade against us. If thousands or even hundreds of local residents would have voted NO, the results had clearly been very different. They have had the opportunity to support you but they could not even be bothered. That's the truth. I am happy to meet and discuss further. Regards Gerald